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男篮即使输了,也是不冷门

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发表于 2009-8-16 22:16 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
别忘了,没有裁判,中国队可能就进不了决赛了

郭士强是不行,但绝不是根本原因,根本原因就是中国男篮只有姚明这一块遮羞布,王ZZ和YJL算国际级球员,但远称不上顶尖,其它球员都和国际水平相距甚远

2004年,中国在雅典买了两个立陶宛的裁判,最后赢了塞黑,进了八强。4年后在北京,对德国的那一战,如果换了中立场,不知有多少人认为中国能赢

在篮球圈子里,大多数人都对中国队的水平有清楚的认识。姚明的出现,带动了国内篮球发展。CBA看上去很火,但事实是所有队都在亏钱,绝大多数球队的训练都非常不正规,队里的所谓大牌经常缺训,这样的联赛在一些地区宣传了篮球,但带动不了中国篮球的发展

在其它贴子里,有人说上届德岛亚锦赛,中国队没有来主力,才给了伊朗机会。但很多篮球界人士的看法是:CBA没有为中国带来有价值的后备力量,这支以CBA球员为主的“二队”或者说三队,恰恰能反应CBA的水平,和中国篮球的基础如何

中国篮球,在亚洲一直是霸主,但不要认为他有多强大。即使今天最后逆转赢了伊朗,也证明不了什么

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79#
发表于 2009-8-18 09:20 | 只看该作者
举国体制的另一个牛逼之处就是除了花费几十亿甚至百亿培养出来的奥运冠军、亚军、季军以及等等外,还有一大片小学学历没有练出来的孩子,他们是这个体制的严重受害者。
78#
发表于 2009-8-18 08:26 | 只看该作者
原帖由 伯爵 于 2009-8-17 13:25 发表
那些钱最多就是 三十个亿。 滩分给全国人民,最多就每人多了 两块钱。经济上去了,人民生活自然会好起来。 训练经费不能少的,一旦少了就不用玩了。 看中国造的飞机 都是模仿别人,就是研发经费少,只能拿别人现成的 ...

你真的太小看我天朝的举国体制了.
77#
发表于 2009-8-18 00:16 | 只看该作者
原帖由 Carrick 于 2009-8-17 16:15 发表
I just saw the replay of the Iranian smackdown on China 70-52, and I see a lot of my Chinese friends blaming the coach (whatever his name is, I'm not a big follower of Asian Basketball), but I always  ...


这个人也够搞笑, 中国队 是 5个单独个体 打别人的5位一体, 如果每个人都能靠一己之力刷出好数据, 那他们全部都可以去打NBA了.
76#
发表于 2009-8-17 23:43 | 只看该作者
说的有点见解
75#
发表于 2009-8-17 17:49 | 只看该作者
楼主是正经八本用眼睛看球的:bz13: :bz13: :bz13:
74#
发表于 2009-8-17 16:52 | 只看该作者
原帖由 frankzhang 于 2009-8-17 15:17 发表
:bz7: 你很贱啊

我看安哥拉土耳其澳大利亚行不:bz10:
73#
发表于 2009-8-17 16:15 | 只看该作者
I just saw the replay of the Iranian smackdown on China 70-52, and I see a lot of my Chinese friends blaming the coach (whatever his name is, I'm not a big follower of Asian Basketball), but I always say, isn't it funny when a team wins it's all about the players who won, but when a team loses it's all the coach's fault? As usual, the coach gets to be the fall guy. From what I saw, yeah, the coach does deserve blame, but let's be honest here, the players deserve more in this game. It's a championship game and players play that badly? Nothing a coach can do about that. What about these factors?



1) Chinese players were exhausted from playing a tough SF game aganst Lebanon the day before.

2) Iran is the defending champ, no matter what, playing against a defending champ is not going to be easy.

3) China had no Yao Ming (though it would not have helped since China had no outside game whatsoever)

4) Chinese team had no perimeter game

5) What can a coach do when ur so-called "best" NBA player Yi Jianlian shoots 5-17 and 1 of 4 from the FT???? (Is it safe to say he is not a basketball player?)

6) Sun Yue went scoreless in 23 minutes of action

7) Wang Shipeng went scoreless

8) Zhu Fangyu had 2pts

9) Liu Wei had 6pts on 33% shooting

10) Hu Xuefeng 2pts on 33% shooting

11) China got 12 points from its perimeter players, that's right, 12?!?!?!?! That's pathetic

12) China shot 2 of 18 from 3pt line. My dog could shoot better than that.

13) Iran outrebounded China 44-28. Ur not going to win games being outrebounded by 16.

14) Iran's NBA player Hamed Ehadadi actually showed up to play unlike Yi Jianlian. Ehadadi had 19pts 17reb on 9 of 17 shooting.



What's a coach to do when basically all your players except for Wang Zhizhi (who had an excellent game, and always seems to play well in int'l competition, don't know why he always gets ragged on, he usually plays better than any other Chinese player over the last several years I have seen, even better than Yao) play and shoot like shit? Believe me, there is no worse feeling for a coach when that happens cause no matter what u do, it is just one of those days where ur whole team is playing like crap, no matter what u do. Yes, blame does fall on the coaching staff for not being as well prepared for a championship game and perhaps the Chinese team doesn't have good training methods AND the coaches could have tried to spice things up a little to light a fire under the players' asses.



Iran played better and they showed up cause it was a championship game. For China, to play like that at home in a championship game, well, it is sad. Chinese team is not that good of a team, especially without Yao. Iran is much better and they look like an elite team when China has no Yao AND Yi plays like shit.



Again, in this type of game, more blame should go to the players than the coach. In a championship game, players need to rise above the occasion, coaches don't win or lose games, players do. Coaches don't play the game, they don't execute what needs to be done, they don't play defense, they don't rebound. Sometimes these kinds of games happen where nothing seems to go right and you can't do anything ta all to fix it, that's sports.


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72#
发表于 2009-8-17 15:17 | 只看该作者

回复 71# ADLE 的帖子

:bz7: 你很贱啊
71#
发表于 2009-8-17 15:14 | 只看该作者
在这之前我愿意接受斯杯对我的折磨
70#
发表于 2009-8-17 15:00 | 只看该作者
喜欢篮球的朋友们,马上欧锦赛就要开始了,完了之后还有美锦赛,还是多看看那两个大洲的篮球吧
69#
发表于 2009-8-17 14:46 | 只看该作者

回复 57# Interboys 的帖子

我没指望他们把这钱直接用到老百姓身上,不过肯定是个蝴蝶效应,这方面的钱省下了,其他方面建设的资金就多出来了。
68#
发表于 2009-8-17 14:25 | 只看该作者
锅巴没问题才鬼了,对方就一个拿的出手的内线,两大内线不去针对这点进行冲击,锅巴却安排俩内线去外线放风筝
遥记中国世锦赛对希腊,我方上陈江华,对方马上针对性的让与陈对位的比陈高大的迪亚曼蒂迪斯改变打法背身强吃
临场应变能力,锅巴差太远了。
PS:信XX,在此人任内中国男篮从来就没什么好事:bz10:
67#
发表于 2009-8-17 13:55 | 只看该作者
中国足篮现在是四不像

号称职业化,其实还有举国体制的根在里面

两边好处都够不着,光学弊端了

当然越玩越烂
66#
发表于 2009-8-17 13:53 | 只看该作者
所谓崛起那是题目嘛,噱头而已。
不管是不是崛起,反正是把中国按倒了,这就值得报道一下。
所谓行情就是做出来的,和炒股票一样,这次比赛是消息面的刺激,再加上有人运作才能成为行情。
至于报道当然不是简单的说是举国体制或者职业化之类的就够了。
而是应该深层的挖掘,别人的举国体制是什么样的,和中国的有什么不同,为什么结果更好。
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