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作者: jacksonbi    时间: 2011-7-21 07:08
标题: 国外媒体OPE网站试玩《实况足球2012》感受
Playtest conditions
E3 CODE.
Xbox 360 booth.
2 controllers, 1 v 1.
10 minute matches.
Regular or Professional diffculty.
Random condition/form.
No extra time - straight to penalties.

Team list
International
England, France, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Netherlands, Ghana.

European Clubs
Barcelona, AC Milan, AS Roma, Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, Lille, Lyon, Marseille, PSG, Bordeaux, Sporting Lisbon.

Copa Libertadores
Estudiantes, Internacional, Cruzeiro, Fluminense, Club America.


Shooting
There's plenty of room for improvement, based on this particular code. Don't get me wrong, Konami have worked hard and the shooting has improved, generally. But based on what I saw today, they still have much work to do before the game's official release later this year.

Inside the box, I have no complaints. However, it's very hard to score from distance, because the shots are way too floaty, most of the time. You need to hold the shoot button down for a while, and even then, the shot doesn't cause any real problems for the goalkeeper. Even if you hit the "sweet spot", I found it very hard for myself to get excited about the shot.

The lobbing on this game is also a little disappointing. The lobbing on PES 2011 was poor, and sadly, the same can be said for PES 2012. I managed to score two "lobs", but they did not look like lobs at all. They were way too low and powerful to be lobs, for me. The trajectory of the lobs were all wrong.

However, the word on the street is suggesting that Konami have fixed shooting. I just hope that lobs are taken into consideration too, as well as all other shot types. If they can fix all aspects of each shooting technique, I'll be a very, very, very happy PES fan, come October time!


Passing And Through Balls
You can play beautiful football. Precise one-twos are glorious. Players are there to help always keen, looking for the ball, even after passing the ball. Your fellow players are always aware, making effective diagonal runs. Passing triangles will be a big thing in PES this year.

It was awesome to break down my opponents' defences, passing in triangles. And for the record, it was not 'ping-pong' football. This kind of football takes brains.

If you want to dominate in PES 2012, you will need to master the art of 'pass and move'. It sounds simple, but I guarantee it will take time for you to become a pro.

I found the passing in PES 2011 to be very predictable and repetitive. Once you figured the game out, that was it. There was no more to it. This will not happen in PES 2012, I assure you.


Goalkeepers
The 'keepers have been improved very much so, but they are still a little suspect for me. At times, they can pull off some quite incredible saves. But in other instances, they are prone to make clumsy mistakes, in proper PES goalkeeping fashion.

For the record though, I will state that I found that the goalkeepers made less mistakes in this game, compared to PES 2011. When they did makes mistakes, it was realistic 90% of the time.

Yes, they do still spill it, but 9 times out of 10, they do it in a realistic way. I was watching someone play today who cut inside with Nani, had a powerful shot towards Neuer, and the German goalie spilled it, leaving an easy tap-in for Cristiano Ronaldo.

It's a shame I couldn't record any footage for you, because what you're reading probably isn't doing the game any justice.

Like I've suggested, please don't be upset. All players and spectators there yesterday agreed that these mistakes were realistic and we all said we understood why what happened, happened. If you're still upset, I implore you not to be so hasty.

In real life, even the best goalkeepers aren't robots. Every goalkeeper makes mistakes, every so often.

For Konami - and EA Sports too - it's very difficult, very delicate situation. To create a good football simulation, you have to make sure players aren't robots, using robots. For ultimate realism, you have to find the right mix.

I feel Konami are close to finding the right balance between realism, and ensuring that goalkeepers are still good enough to give players of whatever standard a decent challenge, on a long-term basis. A football game is ruined for me, once goalkeepers are sussed.

The goalkeepers in PES 2012 still need a little bit of work, but they have been imprroved immensely since PES 2011, in my opinion. A few tweaks here and there are needed, if Konami are going to nail it this year.


Referees and Officials
Referees have been improved, yes. But as you could well imagine, they are not perfect. They still call for random, silly and damn right peculiar "fouls".

Linesmen, on the other hand, are pretty much perfect. This is all due to the improved AI. Strikers are encouraged to keep up with play, and stay onside as much as possible.

The clueless wandering forwards who were always offside in PES 2011 are the thing of the past. I'm sure even Emmanuel Adebayor will be able to keep up with play this year!


Set Pieces
Penalties have been fixed. Hallelujah!

This is all due to the fact that Konami have finally decided to revert back to the old PES days, where the camera is behind the penalty taker, rather than to the side of him. Not only that, but the penalty system in general has been simplified (improved) massively too.

All you need to do is hold down the shoot button for power. Unlike PES 2011, you can hold it down for a considerable amount of time, before your shot can be blasted over or wide. A power bar will also appear below your player.

Once you player begins his run up, you then are able to choose your direction. You can hold down the left stick for as long as you like. You can hold the stick down for as long as possible, your shot will remain on target - as long as you haven't held the shoot button down for too long, of course!

I only chipped penalty, and it looked good enough. To perform this action, all you need to do is press the dash button, during the players' run-up to the ball.

Including controlling the goalkeeping, the whole system has been improved through simple and logical re-introductions. I don't think I'll ever know why it took so long for Konami to sort this out.

Free kicks remain very similar to what they were like in PES 2011. That's probably all I can say. Although, I will tell you that the goalkeepers behave differently when dealing with free kicks.

One thing that annoyed me about PES 2011 was the fact that whenever a goalkeeper made a save, 99% of the time, the ball went out for a corner. Depending on where you shoot from, the ball rarely stayed in play, not allowing play to flow - just like it does in real life.

I had a free kick today with Wesley Sneijder. I didn't think it was going to go in, but I knew it was always going to trouble the goalkeeper. And it did.

Victor Valdez had to rush over to the over side of his goal, and he just managed to claw it, pushing it safely away from goal. It was a good save and the ball was safe. However, unlike PES 2011, my attack was still on because the ball had remained on the pitch.

Little things like this will make the game more entertaining, realistic and also much more varied - which is the most important factor for me. A football sim cannot be repetitive. To be a truly great football game, a player cannot expect anything, just like in real life. The perfect football game is something that can last for an entire year, at least - and PES 2012 looks like it could be the real deal!


Graphics
Graphics and player models have been slightly improved but for me, there isn't a huge improvement. Like Jon Murphy has stated many times, it's all about gameplay this year for the PES series.

I don't want to get you guys down, but there's not that much more to talk about regarding graphics. They have always been good enough, so I can safely remain content again this year for PES 2012 in terms of the game's visuals.


General Improvements
Auto kick off is gone. Embarrassingly, I'll admit that it took me a while for me to get used to this. And if you guys must know, I did get a few funny looks, when it was my turn to kick off... and I was just staring blank at a still screen!

The catch up bug has gone. From now on, Titus Bramble will not be able to catch up with Theo Walcott. Like today I experienced today, once you're away with David Villa, Michael Dawson will not catch you. Rest in peace, catch up bug. You will not be missed!

Player turning has been worked on well this year. It's much quicker and much more responsive. I found great delight turning with players like Messi, Sneijder, and Benzema.

The defences are much harder to break down, due to the improved AI. I often found myself facing my opponent camping 10 men behind the ball. Challengingly, it was very hard to break down at times. In PES 2012, players will have to be patient and could also benefit from thinking outside the box, trying to do something special, when attempting to break opponents down.

The crowd atmosphere is very good. Despite there being a fair bit of background noise (the PES 2011 Main Event Final going on in the background!), the matchday ambience was brilliant.Most importantly, there was one thing that stood out for me

I will assume that you have all watched a Spanish league match? You know that sound the home team crowd make when a shot goes just wide? That "oooohhh" sound boomed around the Camp Nou, when I fired a shot just past the post with Lionel Messi. I hope you understand?


New Additions To The Series
My favourite introduction to the PES series for 2012, is the right-trigger player switching feature. It's really, really, really useful. Like in FIFA, PES corners have always been predictable. In PES at least, this is not the case any more. Not for the first time, Konami have implemented a truly innovative feature.

Now, you are able to simply pick your target, control him making a clever run, trying to lose your marker, and then hit cross and see if you can pull off an effort on goal. The same applies for long throws. I will expect players to be rewarded for adopting a long ball style of play - for the first time ever in a football simulation.

PES has always been a brain-game. And this new feature is just one of many examples of why PES 2012 will need great concentration, if players are going to succeed. It's an absolutely fantastic new addition to the series.

Another one of my favourite introductions to the series this year, is the overlapping runs performed by your full backs. They're just simply incredible. Whether you're playing with Dani Alves or Javier Zanetti, they will always offer you support, making darting runs down the line.

Today I held up play with Samuel Eto'o, passed it out wide to the over-lapping Javier Zanetti, who pinged it into the box, allowing Diego Milito to head home. 1-0!

It was a supremely pleasing goal to score. One of many from today actually. Trust me, you will be able to score some incredibly pleasing goals this year, with some skill, patience and good timing.

The continuous throw ins are pretty smooth. They don't happen all the time, but when they do, you will be impressed, when you first see it. It's quite amazing to be blown away by something so simple.

The player faces, models and formations remain the same. However, players' faces can now be seen down the bottom of the formations screen, when you click on a player.

I was impressed with the animated characters on the sidelines. The moving cameramen were cool. The ground employees walking around the stadium were great too. The crowd also wears the teams colours now, which adds to the realism factor. All added together, the game looks much more aesthetically pleasing.

Team grades are in this year. Yes, they're not going to blow anyone away, but it's very easy now to compare teams. According to the grading system, AC Milan are better than FC Barcelona. Maybe that will convince a few people use other teams more often, rather than just Messi's Barca?

Football Life looks like it will be a direct replacement to Become A Legend. BAL was not there on the main menu, and it appears that FL has been substituted straight in for it. No details have been released revealing what Football Life will be about, but we are pretty certain that it will be some sort of an evolution of Become A Legend.

Final Thoughts
It's code from E3, so of course, Konami have added a lot since. But as this is all I've played, I will have to share my initial impressions, based on this particular code.

On the contrary, this isn't a bad thing. With early codes, you are able to spot mistakes in the game, and submit feedback (including this impressions post) to the Konami team. Ideally, arising problems will be addressed and fixed in time for the game's official release later this year. But for now, I will discuss the problems with PES 2012 - based on the E3 code.

The first thing that frustrated me was the lack of desire the players showed when going for the ball, especially when chasing a loose ball or running onto a pass. In my opinion, Konami need to make player sprinting a little quicker. Nothing major, but just a little speed boost that will make the game feel more sharper, giving everyone a less infuriating game.

The right-trigger player switching is an immense addition to the PES series. But it's not as straightforward as you might think. I won a goal kick with Victor Valdes, and tried to ground-pass it across my box to Dani Alves. Unfortunately, my pass was intercepted by Zlatan Ibrahimovic, and I found myself 1-0 down.

I did not investigate it thoroughly, but it seems to me that it's still better to go long. Although I'll admit, that this could be down to my own naivety.

Referees also need some more work. Although, they are excellent at times, handing out cards appropriately, there are still glimpses of catastrophic errors that we see now in PES 2011. The referees are much better and Konami have taken huge steps in the right direction, but work will still need to be done, looking at this particular code. Throughout the afternoon, I tried to get my players sent off, but after some truly horrific challenges, I wasn't even cautioned with a yellow card at times!

Although it's not necessarily a bad thing, I found that my passes didn't always find the man. True, it was frustrating, but I wouldn't suggest that this is a game breaker. The passing system in PES 2012 is hugely sensitive, so to achieve success in this game, concentration will be vital. Despite seeing one or two of my fellow playtesters yesterday become very frustrated by the game, I think this is a very good thing. Making the game more challenging is a positive step forward, in my opinion.

I will also give huge praise to the 'pitchside' camera option. We could only use one stadium, but it was still extraordinary using pitchside cam at the Camp Nou. You guys will love it.

Replays - during game and post goal - are the same. For me, no changes are needed. It's already good enough, so why change anything?

I can't recall seeing any injuries, so cannot comment on how much a player would be affected, after picking up an injury. Injuries were probably turned off, but I don't know for sure, as I didn't check. The option was greyed out.

Unfortunately, I can't say much more for player fatigue. I believe it was easier for the leading team, to score in the last 20 minutes or so. This could be due to fatigue, or maybe significant changes in the formations and playing style. That's all I can say, at this moment in time.

A few people asked on Twitter about about cursor changing. I had no problems. Although there were only 2 controllers, so I didn't get the chance to investigate a 2v2 match. However, as for 1v1 matches, I am confident when I say this; it's fixed.

Generally, players' first touches are much better. Obviously, the world class players are very unlikely to have poor first touches - maybe impossible. But that's a good thing surely, right? I couldn't imagine the uproar from the community, if players like Xavi, Sneijder and Fabregas are going to take poor touches on a regular basis.


Alternatively, I had a Copa Libertadores exhibition match, playing as Estudiantes. Juan Sebastian Veron was class - a real stand out. But other players around him who were, well... poor, struggled to control the ball at times. It was probably a mixture of poor condition and poor stats, but world class players are going to stand out this year - and rightly so!

I don't want to jump aboard the hype train - not just yet. But I will stick my neckout for the time being, and say that Konami could provide us with a really, really, really special game this year. For such an early code, it's absolutely immense. However, for this E3 code, there's still a long way to go for Konami if they are to achieve worldwide recognition.

I will avoid comparing PES 2012 with the glory days of the PS2 days - but, with some tweaks here and there, I am confident Konami can trump the chumps this year.

Based on what I've played so far, I will state that PES 2012 is the biggest step forward Konami have made, since moving onto next-generation console gaming.
作者: jacksonbi    时间: 2011-7-21 07:11
译:
硬件设备:

  E3版本

  BOX 360版

  两个手柄 1 VS 1

  10分钟

  Regular 或Professional 难度

  随机状态

  没有加时——直接进行点球比赛

球队名单
  国家队

  英格兰,法国,意大利,德国,葡萄牙,荷兰,加纳

  俱乐部

  巴萨,AC米兰,罗马,国米,拜仁,里尔,里昂,马赛,埃因霍芬,波尔多,里斯本竞技

  射门系统
  禁区里射门很容易,但远射显得很难,射出去的皮球往往很飘,经常对守门员没什么威胁,这让我提不起兴趣。

  吊射也是有些让人失望,和2011一样。我进了两个吊射,不过它们看上去根本不像是吊射,弧度太低而且力度很大,感觉吊射时的皮球轨迹完全错了。

  然而,坊间的传闻说K社已经修正了射门系统,我只是希望吊射也能成为修正的部分,还有其它射门方式。

  短传和直传

  二过一传球很精确。接球球员往往对皮球的走向很有意识,这显得传球更有效率。今年的三角传球将是很重要的一环。

  通过三角传球撕开对方防线的感觉很好,而且那不是乒乓式的传送,这种传球需要动脑。

  如果你要在PES 2012中成为统治型的选手,你将需要掌握传接球的技巧,听上去貌似简单,但我保证这需要时间才能熟练。

  PES 2012的传球系统不会再像2011那样容易被预知和重复,我可以保证。

  门将

  门将还是让我有些疑惑,他们还需要一些改进。有时,它们能作出一些精彩的扑救。但在其它时候,他们容易造成一些低级失误,大概是10%的可能性吧,但这些失误却是逼真而可以理解的。

  裁判
  裁判已经进步了。但还是不够完美,他们仍然会很随机地吹一些愚蠢的奇特犯规。

  而边裁则显得更为完美。这全都归功于改进的AI系统。

  定位球
点球视角已经回到老PES时代的风格,在罚点球球员的后面而不是侧面,当然整个点球系统也变得简易了。你所需要做的只是按下射门力量。当你的球员开始助跑,你就可以选择你射门的角度。你可以按着左方向键不放,你可以按多久都行,你的射门会始终在那个方向——只要你不要按着射门键不放就好,你懂的!

罚点球时还可以挑射,而且那看上去很好。任意球和2011类似。而门将在应对任意球时也会有不同的反应。

  画面
  球员建模有些许提高,但并不是像制作人Jon Murphy所说那样提高很大,今年PES的主要目标在于提升游戏性。

  画面部分真的没什么好说的了。因为那一直看上去不错,但和2011没有太大的不同。

  整体的改进

  自动的开球没有了。

  追赶BUG也没有了。从现在开始,Michael Dawson将不能跟上David Villa的脚步。

  球员的转身已经重新做好。转身显得更快速和更容易响应了。控制Messi, Sneijder, 和 Benzema那样的球星转身是件很欢乐的事。

  在PES 2012里,玩家必须要有耐心在外围做配合来撕破对方的防线,尝试做一些特别的事情才能突破对手。

  球迷的气氛很棒,当我控制梅西作出一次稍稍偏出门柱的射门时,那阵“oooohhh”的惊叫声环绕着整个诺坎普球场。

  新加入的元素

  右摇杆切换球员的功能。和FIFA那样,很实用。在界外球时也可以这么做。

  另外一个新加入的是后卫叠瓦式的助攻意识。拥有Dani Alves 或Javier Zanetti时的效果特别明显。

  不间断的界外球系统使比赛很流畅。那不是经常发生,但当发生后,你将会印象深刻。

  球员的脸型和阵型设置界面和过去一样。然而,球员脸型能在阵型设置界面的下方显示。
边线人物的动作很逼真。例如移动中的摄影师。还有球场上的员工也会在场上来回走动。球迷也会穿上球队颜色的服装,这让赛场更为逼真,这一切的引入,让整个游戏看上去更让人欢乐了。

加入了球队等级。

足球生涯模式(Football Life)看上去将是绿茵传奇模式(Become A Legend)的替代品。但到目前为止没有任何有关这个新模式的介绍,不过基本可以肯定的是FL模式将是BAL的进化模式。

  结论
  这次试玩的是E3版本的试玩。

  首先让我沮丧的是,球员拿球时那种意识不够,特别在追上一次传球时。

  裁判也需要继续改进。尽管他们一般都合理的出牌,但仍然会时不时作出一些杯具性的判罚,像过去2011那样。整个下午的游戏时间里,我一直尝试让我的球员被红牌罚下,但除了一些极其恶意的犯规以外,我居然连黄牌也没拿过!

  传球系统并不容易掌握,我看到和我一起试玩的两个伙伴都对此很沮丧,但我想这是好事,好让这款游戏更具有挑战性。

  我想赞扬一下场边的视角选项。虽然我们只能用诺坎普球场,但用这个场边的视角依然很棒,你们会爱上它的。

  回放系统和过去一样,其实过去已经不错了,不需要改变。

  球员的触球感觉更好了。很明显,世界级球星们几乎不可能停不好球。

  我不想过于兴奋,到目前为止我只能说今年K社会给予我们一款很特别的足球游戏。基于我所玩的版本来说,我可以肯定PES 2012将是K社在进入次世代以来对游戏作出最大改进的一作。

  而对于这次的E3的试玩版本来说,如果K社想让这款游戏得到世界范围内的认可,却还有一段很长的路要走。

  原文:http://www.onlyproevolutions.com ... st-impressions.html

感谢:游侠会员:JS柳 翻译
作者: qsm222    时间: 2011-7-21 07:43
支持啊,期待ing
作者: qi345388687    时间: 2011-7-21 07:53
值得期待一下!!!
作者: ZANTTI    时间: 2011-7-21 08:13
期待2012
作者: gurui    时间: 2011-7-21 08:23
看他这样说 小期待一下
作者: raulgoal26    时间: 2011-7-21 08:29
每次新作来之前都会被说得神作一样,淡定吧,别抱太大希望。
作者: 津门第一    时间: 2011-7-21 08:34
8错啊~~~~~

2012不是可以执法比赛么?

这个传闻是真实的不?
作者: preston1989    时间: 2011-7-21 08:38
期待~~
作者: akouterman    时间: 2011-7-21 08:39
进来看到鸟语就晕了。
作者: shrimp24    时间: 2011-7-21 08:42
貌似这样说试玩版很快就要出来了,可是惯例不是9月份吗
作者: freeplayor    时间: 2011-7-21 08:47
写得不错,顶了
作者: 笨笨小q    时间: 2011-7-21 08:48
很期待啊
作者: Lucifer717    时间: 2011-7-21 09:00
顶一下
作者: 郑龙10号    时间: 2011-7-21 09:20
不错不错
作者: chelsea_zcc    时间: 2011-7-21 09:30
期待BL里当门将!:bz34:
作者: vince_0931    时间: 2011-7-21 09:31
好长。。。。。
作者: xiao_0614    时间: 2011-7-21 09:33
期待新模式
作者: 葫芦岛Oo航少    时间: 2011-7-21 09:35
了解,谢谢分享!
作者: 红魔111    时间: 2011-7-21 09:37
期待2012
作者: lanbo52    时间: 2011-7-21 09:38
好像不错的!!!!1
作者: ooapp11    时间: 2011-7-21 09:46
看一下!~
作者: 谁与争菜    时间: 2011-7-21 10:22
追赶BUG也没有了。从现在开始,Michael Dawson将不能跟上David Villa的脚步
作者: 她是他的她    时间: 2011-7-21 10:31
给力
作者: 6588599    时间: 2011-7-21 10:41
吓我一跳 以为没有翻译
作者: kevin881125    时间: 2011-7-21 10:51
听起来真不错呀!!
作者: 小老爷们儿    时间: 2011-7-21 10:52
改来改去 最后又和原来一样了
作者: zhengyuhang1991    时间: 2011-7-21 10:59
LZ火星了 2012的版块几天前就有人发过了...
作者: zuoqiqi    时间: 2011-7-21 11:13
传球系统不好?
作者: dchy8351    时间: 2011-7-21 11:39
值得期待,但是还需改进
作者: 心底的蓝白    时间: 2011-7-21 11:42
期待
作者: wepes2011    时间: 2011-7-21 11:49
点球终于改回来了。
作者: 迅哥儿    时间: 2011-7-21 11:56
滚了半天。。。  全是E语
作者: sos501    时间: 2011-7-21 12:53
期待啊!早日发布啊!
作者: esabellabao    时间: 2011-7-21 12:58
看的真爽!
作者: mekaay001    时间: 2011-7-21 13:19
"裁判已经进步了。但还是不够完美,他们仍然会很随机地吹一些愚蠢的奇特犯规。"
作者: ☆盘带魔术师    时间: 2011-7-21 13:26
:bz31:
作者: rejal    时间: 2011-7-21 13:32
大家还是淡定点吧
作者: milan0625    时间: 2011-7-21 13:44
The catch up bug has gone. From now on, Titus Bramble will not be able to catch up with Theo Walcott
意味深长啊,那些不承认这个bug的懂球帝都去哪了?
作者: minyunxin    时间: 2011-7-21 13:45
不抱太大希望。从试玩版的情况看,又是小修小补。
作者: xyq101964    时间: 2011-7-21 13:47
该死的点球终于改了
作者: jevry_koko    时间: 2011-7-21 13:56
确实期待啊 很给力的
作者: liule10    时间: 2011-7-21 13:59
绝对支持!
作者: jacksonbi    时间: 2011-7-22 08:54
值得期待




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